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Rogues Ruining the DZ?

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Rane, I see youre on PC. I wonder if we've ran into eachother.  I used ESGN for awhile, but switched to my old game tag. xTech.

Ive only ran into 1 person from this forum so far.

 
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Rane, I see youre on PC. I wonder if we've ran into eachother.  I used ESGN for awhile, but switched to my old game tag. xTech.

Ive only ran into 1 person from this forum so far.
I doubt it, I've got one lvl 14 character on PC and have been in the DZ once. I started my main character on PS4, then wound up getting the PC copy when I bought a GTX 970 lol

 
Rane, I see youre on PC. I wonder if we've ran into eachother.  I used ESGN for awhile, but switched to my old game tag. xTech.

Ive only ran into 1 person from this forum so far.
Yo, shoot me a friend req, uPlay: g1nter

 
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I doubt it, I've got one lvl 14 character on PC and have been in the DZ once. I started my main character on PS4, then wound up getting the PC copy when I bought a GTX 970 lol
970 handles the game pretty nice. Ive got most settings on high or ultra @1080. I'm waiting until the 1080ti drops then ill upgrade.

 
I've got one lvl 14 character on PC
I cultivate a couple of Alts specifically for Dark Zone fun so I don't have to expose my level 30's to any hot-n-heavy-naughty-Rogue action (they're eyes would melt). So a level 12-15 Alt I use, don't bother picking up any loot really, its literally there to kill Mobs have a non-mission based challenge. That and PvP is far more even (unless the game glitches and throws in GS160 players with you!).

Ok....really dumb question but I haven't looked. Are Dark Zone credits cross-account or agent specific?

 
Oof, good for you...what'll that be, $700 or so?
Probably. I'm hoping to get a couple hundred for my 970. Its only 3 months old right now.  I wanted a 980ti when I did my build originally, but decided on the 970 with the new gpu's coming out.

 
Probably. I'm hoping to get a couple hundred for my 970. Its only 3 months old right now.  I wanted a 980ti when I did my build originally, but decided on the 970 with the new gpu's coming out.
I have to build for two, me and my wife.  I got a 970 and she got a 960 since she mostly just plays Guild Wars. I doubt I'll be upgrading any time soon...

...the wife, however, is getting a new job, so if she winds up with a 1080 I'll be sure not to tell anyone on here lol

 
I have to build for two, me and my wife.  I got a 970 and she got a 960 since she mostly just plays Guild Wars. I doubt I'll be upgrading any time soon...

...the wife, however, is getting a new job, so if she winds up with a 1080 I'll be sure not to tell anyone on here lol
You could always say YOU got the 1080 lol

 
I cultivate a couple of Alts specifically for Dark Zone fun so I don't have to expose my level 30's to any hot-n-heavy-naughty-Rogue action (they're eyes would melt). So a level 12-15 Alt I use, don't bother picking up any loot really, its literally there to kill Mobs have a non-mission based challenge. That and PvP is far more even (unless the game glitches and throws in GS160 players with you!).

Ok....really dumb question but I haven't looked. Are Dark Zone credits cross-account or agent specific?
Nope, pretty sure only the Dodo--er, Phoenix Credits.

 
Hmm, maybe I'll get that PC character up to 30...
At least using a mouse and keyboard you can aim AND move ... and by aim I don't mean vaguely wave your crosshairs in the general direction of the enemies central mass. lol!

...can't you use mouse/keyboard on consoles now though? To me, nothing replaces a decent MMO mouse for games like this, no messing with pop-up menus for selecting specialist ammunition or drinking a water etc (seriously, I don't bother with those anyway but still have a button bound for them). 

 
At least using a mouse and keyboard you can aim AND move ... and by aim I don't mean vaguely wave your crosshairs in the general direction of the enemies central mass. lol!

...can't you use mouse/keyboard on consoles now though? To me, nothing replaces a decent MMO mouse for games like this, no messing with pop-up menus for selecting specialist ammunition or drinking a water etc (seriously, I don't bother with those anyway but still have a button bound for them). 
PS4 does allow for kb/m, but I don't think many of its games actually support it.

That said, I'm an old school Quake guy.  I lived and breathed kb/m and got into tons of flame wars back when Halo first came out on consoles.  I couldn't stand thumbsticks for FPS or similar games.  Now I've gotten a bit better with them and can whip through The Division with the best of them...while on a kb/m setup, I'm floundering.  A MMO mouse might help with that though.

 
 A MMO mouse might help with that though.
For fear of derailing this thread even further ... an MMO mouse is a must for me now. Using TeamSpeak on Vox settings, I have in-game comms set to PTT, explosive ammo, incendiary ammo, reloads, weapon swaps. I haven't yet moved my skills to mouse buttons but I really ought to. 

 
For fear of derailing this thread even further ... an MMO mouse is a must for me now. Using TeamSpeak on Vox settings, I have in-game comms set to PTT, explosive ammo, incendiary ammo, reloads, weapon swaps. I haven't yet moved my skills to mouse buttons but I really ought to. 
Hey I started the thread, I'll derail it if I want to  :2_grimacing:

 
Here is another thought from the rogue side. Players are generally easier to kill then the npc's so, if you feel you can survive the timer, why not go rogue for gear?
It's never about being able to kill other players or not. It's about moral sense and respect towards other players who do their own business using their own time.

I'd be more than happy to kill noob Rogues repeatedly like I did last time to give them a quick taste of what they did to other players earlier, which I don't think they liked it.

 
It's never about being able to kill other players or not. It's about moral sense and respect towards other players who do their own business using their own time.

I'd be more than happy to kill noob Rogues repeatedly like I did last time to give them a quick taste of what they did to other players earlier, which I don't think they liked it.
That's an interesting part of the game but also a missed opportunity.  It's called "The Division," referring to both the sleeper agents as well as the divide between the good and bad.  Had they played with that dynamic a bit more I could see it being something really unique.  Sort of like Fable yet in multiplayer.

Also interesting (to me at least, though I don't get out much  :2_grimacing: ) is how upset people get when you call them on their rogue behavior.  Not necessarily on this board, as things are a bit more civil here, but certainly on the official board.  I would never argue you're a bad person in real life for killing players in a video game, but as I've said time and time again, you're not "just playing the game" when you do.  You're choosing a particular play style that has a negative impact on real people.  Okay, people do get a little extreme (like I said, if you get butthurt in this game, don't play Eve), but being chased by four players and gunned down in a totally unfair fight can really sting.  Point out that fact, and some rogues get very defensive.  

I get no enjoyment from picking on others.  If I'm playing a game of Deathmatch in something like Doom, I'll shoot the hell out of everyone I see.  If given a choice of play styles, like in the Division, I choose not to.

 
I get no enjoyment from picking on others.  If I'm playing a game of Deathmatch in something like Doom, I'll shoot the hell out of everyone I see.  If given a choice of play styles, like in the Division, I choose not to.
Yeah. Me too.

Anyway at this rate, Massive should stop making Incursion and crap and just turn the whole game into full Deathmatch game like Team Fortress. 

Because the enemy of The Division isn't the Rioter, Rykers, Flamer, or LMB. It's The Division itself. lol

 
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