DarkZone Turmoil

[BamBam1820]

Can we really not have a Dark Zone where we can have a private lobby?? I only started really using the DZ recently since it seems the only way to get the better drops rather than grinding in the open map for hours. But I seriously can't stand constantly  getting killed by rogues over and over when you just luck into a shit server and no matter how many times you close and reload the application you end up in the same server with the same d-bags who only run around hunting and killing you even though you send them msgs saying you're not looking for a fight, just loot and daily DZ mission completions.. like really Ubisoft and Massive?!? Come on, even Rockstar let's you play solo/invite-only sessions on GTA!!  Please! I know every single one of my friends who play this game would love and want this and I'm sure there  are many many more. We've never intentionally went rogue or even hunted rogues, we literally run safehouse to safehouse skirting them to a DZ far from them to avoid conflict. But I can't even enjoy the DZ by myself and have to usually wait till I have friends because I always get taken down, even with them the rogues are 99DZ ranked and have OP Gear and weapons... so please please please can we atleast get a solo/invite only session available?! PLEASE?!?!

 

[Oh. daesu]

Hey @BamBam1820, welcome to the forums.

These forums are actually a fan site than the ubisoft site. So, if you wanted your voice to be heard by ubisoft, you're best posting at http://forums.ubi.com/forumdisplay.php/498-The-Division.

I think they are changing how the DZ works with going rogue and manhunts  in the upcoming patch 1.8. However, they haven't released any details, but it is meant to be significant.

 

[quinch1199]

1.8 is bringing SIGNIFICANT changes to the DZ and in particular the game mechanics around Rogues. 

Currently only hints and rumours...BUT... they appear to be trying to implement a PvP/PvE style marker system similar to other MMO's where areas mix PvP & PvE elements. So far I've only heard that they're implementing half of the system.

Ok, how it goes in some other MMO's is that there are joint areas where PvP and PvE combat overlaps. To "police" this you can choose to mark your character/toon/avatar as either PvP, PvE. 

If you set your character to PvP then you are open to PvP combat ANYTIME and without warning (as we currently have the DZ now).

If you set your character to PvE then you are immune to any damage from other players...but you are CLEARLY marked so PvP players generally avoid you and don't interact with you.

AS FAR AS I'M AWARE the proposal for 1.8 is for players wishing to initiate PvP .... i.e. wanting to go Rogue at some point will set their marker to PvP and will be marked as potential Rogue status regardless if they've started a combat. 

EDIT - This PvP marker won't however, that I can surmise, mean you're an open target. Even if marked as a potential rogue you can't be openly engaged until you actually turn rogue. Its more like a warning sticker and I believe will effect other minor mechanics such as friendly fire. 

Again...this is based on sketchy info I have currently and obviously this isn't all of it. 

 

[quinch1199]

Can we really not have a Dark Zone where we can have a private lobby?? I only started really using the DZ recently since it seems the only way to get the better drops rather than grinding in the open map for hours. But I seriously can't stand constantly  getting killed by rogues over and over when you just luck into a shit server and no matter how many times you close and reload the application you end up in the same server with the same d-bags who only run around hunting and killing you even though you send them msgs saying you're not looking for a fight, just loot and daily DZ mission completions.. like really Ubisoft and Massive?!? Come on, even Rockstar let's you play solo/invite-only sessions on GTA!!  Please! I know every single one of my friends who play this game would love and want this and I'm sure there  are many many more. We've never intentionally went rogue or even hunted rogues, we literally run safehouse to safehouse skirting them to a DZ far from them to avoid conflict. But I can't even enjoy the DZ by myself and have to usually wait till I have friends because I always get taken down, even with them the rogues are 99DZ ranked and have OP Gear and weapons... so please please please can we atleast get a solo/invite only session available?! PLEASE?!?!

You will also note that with 1.8 the new 4 vs. 4 dedicated PvP will be implemented (not in DZ but rewards will be good), plus a dedicated PvE Horde Mode ... to me this will cover your requirements for invite only PvE or PvP game sessions. Granted nether are in the DZ but in the new areas coming in the next major patch. 

EDIT - I have to point out that IF they changed the Dark Zone to some form of invite only group session (instance) which was PvE only then ... isn't it just the Open World / Light Zone but with harder enemies? Currently the only item in the DZ you can get mostly from the DZ is Div Tech and a few named items. Majority of other drops can be obtained on the main loot table drop via other activities in the LZ/Survival/Incursions/Underground etc etc.

I have to say I am not a fan of PvP .... I don't visit the DZ much and avoid all other players if I do go in for any reason (currently just collecting Div Tech) so i'm not here because I'm a PvP "fan boy" but I have to say that the DZ has to stay as an exclusively PvP area or it loses all reason to exist. I think the basic concept of it is fine but clearly there are issues with griefing etc. 

Bottom line, if you don't like raw PvP then don't go in there that much. Harsh but fair...which is how I see the DZ should be...Harsh ...but fair.

 

[Oh. daesu]

@quinch1199, the man with the details  :5_smiley:

 

[quinch1199]

@quinch1199, the man with the details  :5_smiley:

Ear to the ground and reading between the lines buddy...that's me.

 

[Ruhacz]

It also bothered me, but we will not fix it here. This is not official Ubisoft forum, but for me it's a plus