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You removed the only reasin To grind in dz , the aug And the m1 

Replaced with garbage are you rotating these or not ?

Otherwise folks just dont bother with dz aint worth it can just do better with pheonix pve

Cause there is no worth the grind rewards in dz 

Vector and a pistol both crap 

 
are your questions directed to someone here? if so, its a waste. this is a fan forum.

there is more to the dz then grinding for loot. try pvp if youre bored of going after npc's. 

 
Grinding the DZ awards rank, weapons, gear, mods, attachments, phoenix credits, dark zone currency, a chance at gear set pieces, PvP battles, and PvE battles...or in other words, everything in game at once. If you think grinding it out for whats available right now is the goal, you're sadly mistaken.

Of course you can gain pxc faster, if that's all you want. But why not grab everything else at once too?

 
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No point in ranks then, or pvp,  If pve weps are better why spend hours in greifVille for shit gear when you can simply just do mindless pve for better gear ?

 
All good just shelf that game put it down to more useless pve content driven games

Where spending 4 times as long grinding pvp Is not rewarded 

 
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Grinding the DZ awards rank, weapons, gear, mods, attachments, phoenix credits, dark zone currency, a chance at gear set pieces, PvP battles, and PvE battles...or in other words, everything in game at once. If you think grinding it out for whats available right now is the goal, you're sadly mistaken.

Of course you can gain pxc faster, if that's all you want. But why not grab everything else at once too?
Cause its junk want level 204 Or higher 32 plus gear not a binch of crap 163 garbage

 
Level 75 now got 4 nomad pack packs and level 182 gear never ever seen a 204 drop 

And the reward vendor ones crap could make a level 182 with better stats that is not right 

 
The 204 vector is better than it's 182 blueprint. By a good bit. The others I can't personally speak to yet. B.O.O. special vendor 204's rotate every week, so wait and see what comes up. Not every piece will fit your build, but it may fit others.

As for drops, it's been confirmed that they do drop in the DZ at 204, though it's a rare occurrence...as it should be for top end weapons. I can't make them drop for you, but keep trying!

BtW, nomad is a solo set, not a PvP set. Get some other gear and run incursion if you want to progress further faster.

 
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Like xero said. There's so much to do in the dark zone. Log on with a reason to farm. For example - I need weapon parts / tools. So that's my current grind. Dont blindly run around because you'll either get cut up or bored. It's a lot more fun having a group to play with as well. 

 
For me, I DZ for fun. Never once have I run to a safe house to get a blueprint or even run to a drop to get some gear. I simply go in to have fun. I do the daily's for the grinding and the PxC.

 
Cause its junk want level 204 Or higher 32 plus gear not a binch of crap 163 garbage
You seem like a gamer that is not satisfied unless his character is equipped with the BEST Possible items, which in this game is damn near impossible.

You might as well get used to it.

 
You seem like a gamer that is not satisfied unless his character is equipped with the BEST Possible items, which in this game is damn near impossible.

You might as well get used to it.
seems to me more like a player that wants every best weapon and gear handed to him on a silver platter and doesnt want to work for it. but...i could be wrong :)

 
Lol whatever i put more effort in than most 

Like i said in level 76 now and gear score 202

 
Lol whatever i put more effort in than most 

Like i said in level 76 now and gear score 202
If you want to define yourself by your gear, it's nomad, and mostly crafted, so that's nothing...just means we get to kill you twice. 70-80 DZ rank is likely an average by now in game for players at 30.

Just bear in mind; you came here to post that the DZ was now worthless because TWO items were removed that would allow you to parrot the most popular build, then called everything else available crap and garbage. You knew the lumps were coming, and a lot of them are from players that destroy the build you're talking about daily on someone, with what you deem as "crap" in their hands, and "garbage" on their gear.

 
Lol whatever i put more effort in than most 

Like i said in level 76 now and gear score 202
i did put in the disclaimer "but...i could be wrong"  :)  if you are gear score 202 and DZ rank76, I have no clue why you are complaining... over 2 weapons? really?!?!? if you are that high,  it seems to me you are doing fine without those 2 weapons. just use other weapons, adapt and over come.

 
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I can slightly understand him anyways. You can grind like hell in this game DZ or PVE challenge missions doesn't matter and still get rather low tier loot. I for example did 20 Lexington runs in a row once to grind for better gear and I did not get a single HE-Item that improved my current build. Which is no exotic build that only relies on the most rare stuff or something. I am still below GS 180 and don't get better gear out of 20 Lexington runs? Come on...out of 40 HE drops nothing at least in the 182 GS range that has decent stats/talents on it? Does it really have to be that much RNG? I mostly got 163 GS gear and only one or two in the 182 range that where only useful for deconstruction.

Did not have that much bad luck in any other Looter-Shooter I played and I own and play/played all main Borderland games (Part I + II + Pre-Sequel with all DLC's) so I know that you need to grind for good gear and that it takes time. But I think The Division can be pretty harsh with it's current loot randomness and the fact that they nerfed crafting to hell so even if I manage do grind enough DZ credits to buy those "Top notch blueprints" I won't be able to craft them often enough to get a good roll considering my "current" luck with the RNG factor. I barely find enough tools to craft more then one HE-weapon atm. As long as I don't spend another hour each day hunting for tools all over the map, which I simply can't because of my full-time job. Maybe they should give you a tool from time to time when you deconstruct an item which needs tools to be crafted not just the "type" component.

If they would raise the GS of the loot that drops to the level of the enemies you fight, that would be great. Of course not for every single piece of loot that would be too much but a lvl 32 should have a significantly higher chance to drop a according GS item then a lvl 30 enemy. Or not?

I mean why do lvl 32 enemies not drop according gear? It still couldn't be useful or have the right talents for you but at least it would have a better chance to improve your build.

I know I know shame on me for complaining eh? Maybe it is just my "bad luck streak" that urges me to write here. I don't want the silver plater thingy but can't it be a little bit more rewarding when you play each day without the need to spend your whole life ingame to get the good stuff? Other games get the balance right...so I hope this will too before I run out of motivation to grind anymore.

 
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If you want to define yourself by your gear, it's nomad, and mostly crafted, so that's nothing...just means we get to kill you twice. 70-80 DZ rank is likely an average by now in game for players at 30.

Just bear in mind; you came here to post that the DZ was now worthless because TWO items were removed that would allow you to parrot the most popular build, then called everything else available crap and garbage. You knew the lumps were coming, and a lot of them are from players that destroy the build you're talking about daily on someone, with what you deem as "crap" in their hands, and "garbage" on their gear.
Well have all strikers, 3 nomad to swap out as per stamina needs, and 3 of sentry so welcome to try merc anytime, look i dont Care really drifting away anyhow , just like to complete what i can and the level 75 aug is it 

 
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Well have all strikers, 3 nomad to swap out as per stamina needs, and 3 of sentry so welcome to try merc anytime, look i dont Care really drifting away anyhow , just like to complete what i can and the level 75 aug is it 
The game will shine 0.0000000000000241% less brightly without you, but I'll adjust my settings to correct.

 
I can slightly understand him anyways. You can grind like hell in this game DZ or PVE challenge missions doesn't matter and still get rather low tier loot. I for example did 20 Lexington runs in a row once to grind for better gear and I did not get a single HE-Item that improved my current build. Which is no exotic build that only relies on the most rare stuff or something. I am still below GS 180 and don't get better gear out of 20 Lexington runs? Come on...out of 40 HE drops nothing at least in the 182 GS range that has decent stats/talents on it? Does it really have to be that much RNG? I mostly got 163 GS gear and only one or two in the 182 range that where only useful for deconstruction.
are you only depending on drops to get your gear score up? if so then you are doing it slightly wrong. they do have gear score 214 blueprints in the base of operations for one example .

 
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