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Going Rouge in the Dark Zone

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Psykotik556

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Can we please have a patch to where the ENTIRE squad won't go Rouge in the DZ if ONE squad mate decides to be a pr*ck?

I'm tired of trying to help people and then they get me killed because THEY went rouge? I'll be off scrounging for loot and BOOM I'm rouge, I didn't do anything but I still die because of someone else's mistake. 

I get that at certain distances this won't happen but if one person decides to flip and go Rouge then the other 3 people shouldn't be forced to either no mattee if its 3 feet or 300 feet .I NEVER GO ROUGE ON PURPOSE due to the fact I've only gotten 5 extractions since launch and had to wait for the recent patch to get my good gear and will not be that way to others, why should I or anyone else be punished for not being a game ruining thief?

I know it's "part of the game" but it's stupid. The DZ is already hard enough with people at lower levels than me TANKING ME, no one needs this on top of that.  Please fix it.

 

Psykotik556

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How so? 3 people who don't want to go rouge have to get punished because the 4th person does? How would it be a bad feature if it were implemented? I'm tired of losing gear I desperately need because of some idiot not able to size up a fight before hand, tired of going rouge overall just because I happen to be within a certain distance to a squad mate who does.

 

g1nt3r

Death Otter
How so? 3 people who don't want to go rouge have to get punished because the 4th person does? How would it be a bad feature if it were implemented? I'm tired of losing gear I desperately need because of some idiot not able to size up a fight before hand, tired of going rouge overall just because I happen to be within a certain distance to a squad mate who does.
I was agreeing with you, I said, it WOULDN'T BE such a bad feature.

 

Psykotik556

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I have a reading disorder and sometimes can't see certain words or tell the difference between certain words (would and wouldn't for example). My bad.

 

Psykotik556

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Yes there is merit in both however in this game any teammate can also just leave the group and betray you. The Rouge system in total has been broken since the beta. I have yet to successfully defend myself from a rouge even when using a Tac Link or the Blue Armor ultimate ability,  and I'm a good shot. It definitely needs fixed. These issues are obviously not the only ones plaguing the Rouge system but a couple of the worst.

 

quinch1199

Dwarven Lord Under The Mountain
in this game any teammate can also just leave the group and betray you. The Rouge system in total has been broken since the beta.
The whole "Rogue" system is utterly broken, its a broken concept to start with. Massive forgot that, online, most people are often deliberately complete trolls for no reason other than they can be. The Rogue system falls over as in an online game there is no HONOUR unless its enforced.

Why did they think other games have the ability to toggle PvP/PvE flags? Why did they think that DayZ Stand Alone pretty much failed as a game where the Arma mod succeeded? It worked as an Arma mod because 1) Arma is already a niche product and 2) it took time, effort and dedication to install the mods required, join servers etc. All this promoted a COMMUNITY spirit and a bond between the players meaning Trolling was minimal...it was all about the PvE experience (more like Survival gameplay) rather than just ganking other players for the sake of it (plus you could have dedicated servers).

It can be fixed but only by a radical rewrite. 

 
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quinch1199

Dwarven Lord Under The Mountain
I get that at certain distances this won't happen but if one person decides to flip and go Rouge then the other 3 people shouldn't be forced to either no mattee if its 3 feet or 300 feet .I NEVER GO ROUGE ON PURPOSE due to the fact I've only gotten 5 extractions since launch and had to wait for the recent patch to get my good gear and will not be that way to others, why should I or anyone else be punished for not being a game ruining thief?
On the flip side, how do Rogues team up? Its not like you exactly have time to match make and search for other Rogues whilst you're Rouge yourself. Only option is to team up and THEN go Rouge and hope the other team members are ok with that. 

Sure you could discuss it before hand but again...there's very limited time and in my experience very very limited actual communication between random players. 

There's no LFG channels (Looking For Group chat channel) in this game for players to discuss or make it clear before joining teams. The only option would be a middle status that a player could choose - Grey Status - which isn't Rogue but indicates to other players joining the group (only in Group UI not visible in-game) that you intend to potentially go Rouge at some point. That way if you group with them and they show the Grey Status you can leave the group if you don't want to risk it. 

 

DeadSockPuppet

Stream Machine
Maybe when the game prompts you "an agent in your group has disavowed the division", or whatever it says, a prompt pops up

"Leave group? Yes ⬛️, No ⚫️"

where the ⬛️ is the interact buttons (square on PS4) and ⚫️ is the ignore button (circle on PS4).  This would give players an option to leave the rogue group if they don't want to be rogue and it wouldn't require them to open their menus and leave the group, possibly while being assaulted.  

Something like this would have a quick timer of say 3-5 sec where a default choice is made if the user doesn't respond, probably to stay in the group.  However, it could be taken a step further and allow users to set their default to either stay in group or leave group in these cases. 

 
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