Offence Thread [NSFW]

[Tran51ucent]

This thread is deliberately meant to be racist, sexist, homophobic, and African-American.

I am making this topic because we all need to have an outlet. I am not generally any of the above but I hate how you can't say anything these days without being called a 'something'. This topic is for everyone but may not be suitable for everyone.  Whatever you say in this topic is okay; you can argue with anyone and call anyone out in this thread. If it goes outside of this topic you will be subject to the usual forum rules and if you copy anything from this thread into any other part of the forum then you will be permanently banned from The Division forums.  You may also be subject to worse than what is said here if you do not follow the rules that have been stipulated previous to this sentence.

(I, Tran51ucent, have made this topic and take full responsibility for this thread. If the community moderators do not find this acceptable then I will take any and all responsibility for what happens in this thread.)

>This topic was made before any moderator approval<

 

[Tran51ucent]

Silk Road is ok if you're dumb enough to post Silk Road topics here but I would prefer Silk Road question rather than locations.

 

[g1nt3r]

Hilary Clinton is a sociopath and if she's elected she will destroy America. Fuck her.

 

[DeadSockPuppet]

Hilary Clinton is a sociopath and if she's elected she will destroy America. Fuck her.

And Trump managed to find the only guy more racist and bigoted than him to be his running mate, well done you pair of fucktards.   Those two won't make America Great Again, they'll make America Redneck-Racist Again.

Hillary can go to hell too.   Kaine is only her running mate because he gave up being DNC Chair so the Clintons could put Wasserman in to rig things for Hillary this year.  His reward for giving up his prestigious post, the VP nod.  

 

[Oh. daesu]

Thought i heard some cleaners before the jumped us.

I think we have some infected Hillary supporters. Let's let them feel the fucking bern!

At the moment I'm grappling how my country has let our census turn into digital dossiers on ever fucking citizen. And fuck, if you don't comply it's $180 fine per day.. until you do. Ffs.

 

[g1nt3r]

And Trump managed to find the only guy more racist and bigoted than him to be his running mate, well done you pair of fucktards.   Those two won't make America Great Again, they'll make America Redneck-Racist Again.

I'm curious why you think Trump is racist?

 

[DeadSockPuppet]

He wants to build a wall to keep Mexicans out because "[t]hey’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists.”  He has proposed barring Muslims from entering the US until the terrorist "problem" is under control, alluding to all Muslims being terrorists.  

However, I think I should have used the term bigot or bigoted:

Simple Definition of bigot

: a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group)

Merriam-Webster's  Learner's Dictionary

That seemes to sum him up a little better, he doesn't just dislike racial groups, he's an equal-opportunity hate monger that gives it to racial groups, religious groups, people of certain nationalities, LGBT community, and women.  

 

[g1nt3r]

He wants to build a wall to keep Mexicans out because "[t]hey’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists.”  He has proposed barring Muslims from entering the US until the terrorist "problem" is under control, alluding to all Muslims being terrorists.  

However, I think I should have used the term bigot or bigoted:

That seemes to sum him up a little better, he doesn't just dislike racial groups, he's an equal-opportunity hate monger that gives it to racial groups, religious groups, people of certain nationalities, LGBT community, and women.  

So because he wants to keep Americans safe he's a racist? Mexicans are bringing drugs over the boarder, that's not to say there aren't hard working, good hearted Mexicans crossing but the fact is they're crossing illegally, alot of times having children here and even clogging up our healthcare and social systems. They can go through the immigration process like everyone else from every other country has too. As for muslims, heres a metaphor that perfectly explains how myself and how alot of other folks feel about them, and the EU has pretty much proved this metaphor. So, there are 10 apples in front of you, and I tell you that 3 of them are poisoned and I don't say which ones, now would you pick an apple and eat it hoping it's not poison, or not eat any of the apples at all? You'd pass on the apple for sure. Logically, allowing 186,000 unvetted muslim refugees into the US is nothing more than a ticking time bomb.

 

[DeadSockPuppet]

So because he wants to keep Americans safe he's a racist? Mexicans are bringing drugs over the boarder, that's not to say there aren't hard working, good hearted Mexicans crossing but the fact is they're crossing illegally, alot of times having children here and even clogging up our healthcare and social systems. They can go through the immigration process like everyone else from every other country has too. As for muslims, heres a metaphor that perfectly explains how myself and how alot of other folks feel about them, and the EU has pretty much proved this metaphor. So, there are 10 apples in front of you, and I tell you that 3 of them are poisoned and I don't say which ones, now would you pick an apple and eat it hoping it's not poison, or not eat any of the apples at all? You'd pass on the apple for sure. Logically, allowing 186,000 unvetted muslim refugees into the US is nothing more than a ticking time bomb.

When when I replied to your first response, I mentioned that I think bigot was a better word, because his venom goes beyond races and religions, it covers sexual identity and just about any other group people can fall into.

And you have a great point, drugs and crime come in through Mexico and terrorist come in with the refugees.  However, does that mean we have to judge all people in the larger group by the actions of the fringe members of that group that almost never represent the beliefs and values of the larger group?

Here's the arguement against the above, our judicial system is built on the presumption of innocent until one is proven guilty.  You can try to counter by saying that applies only to legal US citizens.  I guarantee that we don't want to go down that route because I can assure you that other countries will do the same to Americans and possibly others.  

While I'm 100% for an isolationist foreign policy (close all our overseas bases, let NATO police the world, and keep all our troops to protect the homeland like every other flippin' nation), I think Trump is going about it in a piss poor way.  There's closing our borders and protecting the US and there's being a twatwaffle and a bigot.  

 

[g1nt3r]

When when I replied to your first response, I mentioned that I think bigot was a better word, because his venom goes beyond races and religions, it covers sexual identity and just about any other group people can fall into.

And you have a great point, drugs and crime come in through Mexico and terrorist come in with the refugees.  However, does that mean we have to judge all people in the larger group by the actions of the fringe members of that group that almost never represent the beliefs and values of the larger group?

Here's the arguement against the above, our judicial system is built on the presumption of innocent until one is proven guilty.  You can try to counter by saying that applies only to legal US citizens.  I guarantee that we don't want to go down that route because I can assure you that other countries will do the same to Americans and possibly others.  

While I'm 100% for an isolationist foreign policy (close all our overseas bases, let NATO police the world, and keep all our troops to protect the homeland like every other flippin' nation), I think Trump is going about it in a piss poor way.  There's closing our borders and protecting the US and there's being a twatwaffle and a bigot.  

I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree and see what happens. I do hope you'd rather him win over the compulsive lying, sociopathic, flip flopping, Constitution hating scum that is crooked hillary.

 

[DeadSockPuppet]

I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree and see what happens. I do hope you'd rather him win over the compulsive lying, sociopathic, flip flopping, Constitution hating scum that is crooked hillary.

Absolutely not.  I won't vote for either of them, but if I hate both candidates for any election I'll prefer the Democrat to win even if I won't support them.  

While I don't agree completely with everything the Democrats stand for, I tend to dislike more things about the Republicans than I do about the Democrats.  My big thing is I'm pro choice and the Republicans have always been pro life.  I can deal with the other Democrat crap, but I can't accept the government telling women what to do with themselves.   

 

[g1nt3r]

Absolutely not.  I won't vote for either of them, but if I hate both candidates for any election I'll prefer the Democrat to win even if I won't support them.  

While I don't agree completely with everything the Democrats stand for, I tend to dislike more things about the Republicans than I do about the Democrats.  My big thing is I'm pro choice and the Republicans have always been pro life.  I can deal with the other Democrat crap, but I can't accept the government telling women what to do with themselves.   

What about the 2nd amendment? What about the 1st amendment? Your freedom of speech is at jeopardy. Pretty soon hurting someones feewings will land you in jail. Disagreeing with your government will land you in jail... Just like Europe.

 

[DeadSockPuppet]

I think freedom of speech falls into a gray area when it becomes domestic and foreign policy.  You can hate monger all you want but if you make that national policy I think there's a problem.  

 

[g1nt3r]

I think freedom of speech falls into a gray area when it becomes domestic and foreign policy.  You can hate monger all you want but if you make that national policy I think there's a problem.  

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Comparing Trump to Hitler... really... Besides the obvious wrong doing, Hitler did do alot of great things for Germany.

 

[g1nt3r]

Hilary lying for 12 minutes straight

 

[DeadSockPuppet]

Don't get me wrong, there are things that Trump would definitely do better than Hillary, but when the scales are set to be balanced Trump will weigh heavier on the damage caused side.

As for the Trump-Hitler comparison, what's wrong with it?  Looking just at the policies listed above (genicide aside), what is false about the statements made?  Hitler did all of those things and Trump wants to do all of the things on his side.  And who's to say Trump won't start some kind of Crusade, like Bush #2, by pissing off the Muslim world?   

 

[g1nt3r]

Don't get me wrong, there are things that Trump would definitely do better than Hillary, but when the scales are set to be balanced Trump will weigh heavier on the damage caused side.

As for the Trump-Hitler comparison, what's wrong with it?  Looking just at the policies listed above (genicide aside), what is false about the statements made?  Hitler did all of those things and Trump wants to do all of the things on his side.  And who's to say Trump won't start some kind of Crusade, like Bush #2, by pissing off the Muslim world?   

Trump wouldn't have nearly the amount of power hitler had. This is still and will always be a democracy. He can't just start a crusade against muslims, no matter how much sense it makes to do so. Hilary is a sociopath, more of a wildcard than even trump. She's sick in the head.

 

[g1nt3r]

'murica

 

[Callsign_Gloves]

Comparing Trump to Hitler... really... Besides the obvious wrong doing, Hitler did do alot of great things for Germany.

Okay, time for me to post in here now. Sorry for interrupting the show. So far I find this all amusing.

Hitler did make Germany's first highways and other infrastructure. The Germans had a good economy there for awhile. Until we started bombing everything. Not to mention they're engineers were the best in the world. And I still believe they hold that title.

 

[DeadSockPuppet]

Trump wouldn't have nearly the amount of power hitler had. This is still and will always be a democracy. He can't just start a crusade against muslims, no matter how much sense it makes to do so. Hilary is a sociopath, more of a wildcard than even trump. She's sick in the head.

This is very true, but the Weimar government the Allies left in Germany after exacting their pounds of flesh after WW1 left Germany shattered and with no way to really rebuild.  Hitler came in and rallied the people, have them a vision, and most of all gave them a scapegoat they could punish, since they couldn't easily get at the former allied powers.  That's the perfect storm that helped Hitler come to power, basically dismantle the parliament, and make himself supreme leader.  I agree that Trump won't have that power.  

However, assuming control of Congress doesn't change, Trump would come in with a Republican Congress and with the ability to name two conservative Justices which would basically give him fertile grounds to work in.  

Okay, time for me to post in here now. Sorry for interrupting the show. So far I find this all amusing.

Hitler did make Germany's first highways and other infrastructure. The Germans had a good economy there for awhile. Until we started bombing everything. Not to mention they're engineers were the best in the world. And I still believe they hold that title.

And I agree that I don't think everything Trump would do would be bad (see above), I just don't agree with everything he would do.  And yes, had Hitler not been stopped we would have had jet planes and all that comes with that sooner, as well as other infrastructure.  He wasn't all bad, it was the means by which he went about things.