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Umm, fascism does a lot of good things? Geez, that's a defense of Trump.

Fuck, tell me these a throw away lines in honor of Godwin not Goebbels, lol.

 
There was a passing comment that Hitler did a lot of good things. And I think we can agree Hitler was a fascist. I wasn't suggesting old boy Trump was either Hitler or a fascist.

It's a bit hard to say what type of President he'd be. Maybe for purpose of conjecture, you all should vote for Trump. 

 
Should I repost the Hitler-Trump pic?  Wait, we agreed Trump was a bigot, never discussed him being a fascist.  
bigot? I never agreed on that. Muslims aren't a race, they're a violent "religion". Hilary is dangerous, bottom line. Her plan to bring in over 100,000 unvetted "refugees" into America is simply idiocy. On top of that but her disregard for the Constitution is Unamerican.

 
bigot? I never agreed on that. Muslims aren't a race, they're a violent "religion". Hilary is dangerous, bottom line. Her plan to bring in over 100,000 unvetted "refugees" into America is simply idiocy. On top of that but her disregard for the Constitution is Unamerican.
Here's a refresher:

Simple Definition of bigot

: a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group)

Merriam-Webster's  Learner's Dictionary
So, by your statement Muslims are a religious group, which I agree with, and Trump hates all Muslims because a subset are terrorists.  While he can be a patriot and dislike radical Islamic terrorists, claiming all Muslims are terrorists and hating them makes him, by definition, a bigot.   This is reinforced by his claiming that all Mexicans are drug dealers and rapists and thus he hates all Mexicans.  

So, I don't see how we don't all agree with my statement that Trump's a bigot.  

And Shillary is a piece of crap too.  She'll be a pain in the ass and will be a waste of 4 years, but she's not Trump.  The only thing I can take solace in is that whichever one wins, they'll be a one-and-done, unless they make themselves supreme ruler or whatever Saddam was and Assad, Un, and Putin are. 

 
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So, by your statement Muslims are a religious group, which I agree with, and Trump hates all Muslims because a subset are terrorists.  While he can be a patriot and dislike radical Islamic terrorists, claiming all Muslims are terrorists and hating them makes him, by definition, a bigot.   This is reinforced by his claiming that all Mexicans are drug dealers and rapists and thus he hates all Mexicans.  

So, I don't see how we don't all agree with my statement that Trump's a bigot.  

And Shillary is a piece of crap too.  She'll be a pain in the ass and will be a waste of 4 years, but she's not Trump.  The only thing I can take solace in is that whichever one wins, they'll be a one-and-done, unless they make themselves supreme ruler or whatever Saddam was and Assad, Un, and Putin are. 
The region Islam is at its core, radial. If you've ever seen any of the passages in the quaran you'll see that the religion is inheritantly evil and hateful. Look at Sweden and Germany. There people are getting raped and assaulted constantly. If hating Islam is bigotry than I must be a bigot. These Muslims who have been Americanized and who pick and choose things in the quaran are not true Muslims. Also I don't think he's ever said that all Mexicans are drug dealers, and he definitely never said he hated all Mexicans. You're underestimating Hilary, she's gonna wipe her ass with our constitution. Soon we're gonna be getting arrested for disagreeing with her progressive nonsense like what's happening in Europe. Freedom of speech will be the first to go, and then our second amendment will be next. I hope to god this doesn't happen.

 
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The region Islam is at its core, radial. If you've ever seen any of the passages in the quaran you'll see that the religion is inheritantly evil and hateful.
Christianity is evil and hateful too, if you take the Bible as truth rather than allegory.  Personally, I think all religions think they're the on true religion and that everything else is blasphemy, so they're all bullshit to me.  

The religion itself isn't radical, it's the person that's doing the interpreting and then acting on that interpreting that's radical.  This the same for the wingnut Christians and the terrorist Muslims.  

If hating Islam is bigotry than I must be a bigot
I guess you would be then, since you hate and refuse to accept Muslims, at least according to the MW definition of the word.  

These Muslims who have been Americanized and who pick and choose things in the quaran are not true Muslims.
Does this same logic then apply to Cafeteria Christians that don't follow the laws and rules of Christianity 100%?  If you're a Christian and you work on Sundays, are you a true Christian? Can a true Christian be a soldier or law enforcement officer, since you could be called upon to kill?  If you're poor and need to steal to survive, can you be a true Christian?

Also I don't think he's ever said that all Mexicans are drug dealers, and he definitely never said he hated all Mexicans
After he said that Mexicans were brining in drugs, that they were killers, and rapists, be did mention that some were probably good people, so he didn't call all of them bad, just most of them.  And while you're right that he probably never publicly said that he hated Mexicans, his rhetoric promotes destruct, dislike, and hate for Mexicans.

You're underestimating Hilary, she's gonna wipe her ass with our constitution.
If you want to talk about infringing on our Constitutional rights, look at what W and Congress did with the Patriot Act.  How about everyone takes their right to privacy and tosses it out the window.  Then, let's make it possible to label someone an "enemy combatant" so you can take away their right to due process (this can include US citizens) or threaten someone with labeling them an "enemy combatant" so law enforcement can coerce info out of people.  The Patriot Act was the Republican way of using a Zweihänder where a scalpel was needed.

And you're overestimating what Hillary would be able to do.  I doubt that Congress will have enough seats swap so that it goes Democrat, so she'll have a hell of a time making changes to the Constitution.  Yeah, she'll get to name 2 SCOTUS justices but they can only INTERPRET the Constitution and rule on passed legislature, they can't make law or make direct changes to the Constitution without a legal challenge.  

I'm more concerned with Trump winning, because I feel Congress will remain Republican and he'll name 2 SCOTUS justices so he'll have a Congress to inact his laws, he'll be able to enforce them, and he'll have a conservative court to interpret and uphold them.  You should be concerned by Trump's possibility for Hitler-esque power vs Hillary wasting 4 years in office.

That is unless you think Hillary will go all Frank Underwood and creatively bypass Congress to pass laws.  

 
Christianity is evil and hateful too, if you take the Bible as truth rather than allegory.  Personally, I think all religions think they're the on true religion and that everything else is blasphemy, so they're all bullshit to me.  

The religion itself isn't radical, it's the person that's doing the interpreting and then acting on that interpreting that's radical.  This the same for the wingnut Christians and the terrorist Muslims.  

I guess you would be then, since you hate and refuse to accept Muslims, at least according to the MW definition of the word.  

Does this same logic then apply to Cafeteria Christians that don't follow the laws and rules of Christianity 100%?  If you're a Christian and you work on Sundays, are you a true Christian? Can a true Christian be a soldier or law enforcement officer, since you could be called upon to kill?  If you're poor and need to steal to survive, can you be a true Christian?

After he said that Mexicans were brining in drugs, that they were killers, and rapists, be did mention that some were probably good people, so he didn't call all of them bad, just most of them.  And while you're right that he probably never publicly said that he hated Mexicans, his rhetoric promotes destruct, dislike, and hate for Mexicans.

If you want to talk about infringing on our Constitutional rights, look at what W and Congress did with the Patriot Act.  How about everyone takes their right to privacy and tosses it out the window.  Then, let's make it possible to label someone an "enemy combatant" so you can take away their right to due process (this can include US citizens) or threaten someone with labeling them an "enemy combatant" so law enforcement can coerce info out of people.  The Patriot Act was the Republican way of using a Zweihänder where a scalpel was needed.

And you're overestimating what Hillary would be able to do.  I doubt that Congress will have enough seats swap so that it goes Democrat, so she'll have a hell of a time making changes to the Constitution.  Yeah, she'll get to name 2 SCOTUS justices but they can only INTERPRET the Constitution and rule on passed legislature, they can't make law or make direct changes to the Constitution without a legal challenge.  

I'm more concerned with Trump winning, because I feel Congress will remain Republican and he'll name 2 SCOTUS justices so he'll have a Congress to inact his laws, he'll be able to enforce them, and he'll have a conservative court to interpret and uphold them.  You should be concerned by Trump's possibility for Hitler-esque power vs Hillary wasting 4 years in office.

That is unless you think Hillary will go all Frank Underwood and creatively bypass Congress to pass laws.  
I've agreed with more here than on any post so far. Nailed it Dead.

 
Christians aren't murdering and raping innocent people in the name of their God. Also Kilary will absolutely go around congress, executive order her commi nonsense into our society. Idk man, I'm sick of every media outlet just constantly twisting every word trump says and writing puff pieces everytime Hilary spouts some shit out of her mouth. Obviously we cannot agree but I absolutely commend the thought you've put into your responses and unlike recent progressives (most of Europe) stand for your right to have your own opinion.

 
hristians aren't murdering and raping innocent people in the name of their God.
The Serbs and Croats were Catholics fighting Orthodox Christians fighting Muslims.  If I remember right, all of these groups were raping, murdering, and pillaging in the name of their version of God.  That's from the last 20+ years.  If you go back to the Crusades, Christians were raping, murdering, and pillaging Muslim lands for many years.  So, I don't think you can't say Christians haven't in the distant or near past done those things in the name of God.  

Obviously we cannot agree but I absolutely commend the thought you've put into your responses and unlike recent progressives (most of Europe) stand for your right to have your own opinion.
I agree that we're free to disagree and that's just where we'll have to leave it.  I, too, appreciate the thought and consideration that you've brought to this discussion.

I'm sick of every media outlet just constantly twisting every word trump says and writing puff pieces everytime Hilary spouts some shit out of her mouth.
I think Trump does a good enough job of spewing crap that makes the case against him, the media just reports his foibles.  And it depends on which media you refer to about writing Hillary puff pieces: NSNBC and CNN, yup, FoxNews, nope.  

 
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