Darkzone

[C2L3W1]

And I got a better Aug during a Challenging mission. You can get an awesome weapon drop from anywhere. But, I will concede a lvl 50 can buy better blueprints. That being said....the weapon may be better as far as dps, but you raise my argument against dps.

How many times have you literally got 100% of the bullets in a clip into someone?. More than likely less than a handful. So you're not doing 140k per second. Your weapon has the ability to do it. with enough skill, you can roll, stun, activate a special, and in some cases get more rounds into the higher leveled player. I ran with a dps of 108k and I have 38 rogue player kills...BEFORE I HIT LEVEL 50.  I haven't played DZ since I hit 55.

Keep in mind, the difference between 108k dps and 140k dps is literally 3 bullets in my Aug. Do you honestly think those three bullets make me better than a level 34 player? 

I'm not knocking your point, I do believe is has a little bit of value, but it can be disproven.

 a gold aug para blueprint is unlocked at 50 dz rank. There is a difference .

 

[ESGN]

id put my HE vector with a great roll up against any aug with an avg to good roll.  There are too many factors to take into account besides lvl. Yes a lvl 50 can craft a HE aug, but does that lvl 50 have enough divtech to use incase its a bad roll? If he does get a good roll, do his other base stats help or hurt him. Sure 200k dps is nice, but if youre only 30k health its about worthless. My friend went straight dps. Then he did the dz. He has since switched up his setup. He is now doing 25k less dps on his vector, but has around 70k stam instead of 25k stam he had before. My point is. Lvl isn't everything and the gear you can get doesn't necessarily mean it will be better then what you already have or can get from a drop.

That even applies to the main game. My friend for example. He couldn't run hard mode missions solo, unless he wanted to be really patient with it. He dropped dps and added stam. He can now run solo hard missions with ease.

 

[Blazzen67]

How many times have you literally got 100% of the bullets in a clip into someone?. More than likely less than a handful. So you're not doing 140k per second.

i can honestly say i put a full clip from my vector (40 bullets) into one rogue from about 10 feet away and every bullet hit him in the back and back of his head..I flanked him and he never saw me. and his health meter never moved, I dont care how much stamina/health you have. from that range and every single bullet hitting you, should produce damage of some kind...like i said before...he must have been a hacker. because he just turned around and with one shot, i was dead. not just on a knee, but dead. wish i wrote down his name because that was BS.

 

[C2L3W1]

i can honestly say i put a full clip from my vector (40 bullets) into one rogue from about 10 feet away and every bullet hit him in the back and back of his head..I flanked him and he never saw me. and his health meter never moved, I dont care how much stamina/health you have. from that range and every single bullet hitting you, should produce damage of some kind...like i said before...he must have been a hacker. because he just turned around and with one shot, i was dead. not just on a knee, but dead. wish i wrote down his name because that was BS.

I've had this happen as well. Ive emptied the clip of two guns (more than likely not all bullets hit) and his health barely moved. He was level 51 and I was 47 I believe. I just stopped chasing him once I realized I wasn't going to kill him. But that's an Armor/ perhaps cheating issue. It's not like he kill me either. But getting hit by his teammates certainly didn't help. Lol

 

[Blazzen67]

I've had this happen as well. Ive emptied the clip of two guns (more than likely not all bullets hit) and his health barely moved. He was level 51 and I was 47 I believe. I just stopped chasing him once I realized I wasn't going to kill him. But that's an Armor/ perhaps cheating issue. It's not like he kill me either. But getting hit by his teammates certainly didn't help. Lol

lol..in my situation above, it seemed like a scene out of a movie where the small guy punches a huge guy square in the face, and the big guy just smiles and with one punch knocks the small guy out...thats what it felt like LOL

 

[ESGN]

I get what youre saying blazzen, but there were other factors involved in that (like hacking), that are more important then dz lvl.

 

[ESGN]

i can honestly say i put a full clip from my vector (40 bullets) into one rogue from about 10 feet away and every bullet hit him in the back and back of his head..I flanked him and he never saw me. and his health meter never moved, I dont care how much stamina/health you have. from that range and every single bullet hitting you, should produce damage of some kind...like i said before...he must have been a hacker. because he just turned around and with one shot, i was dead. not just on a knee, but dead. wish i wrote down his name because that was BS.

On the flip side. Ive had a few people that were wanting to go rogue to that to me. Granted it took more then one bullet to kill them, but it was less then a clip. While they unloaded on me and barely did any dmg.  No idea their lvl. I was too busy laughing at his poor attempt to steal my gear lol.

 

[Blazzen67]

On the flip side. Ive had a few people that were wanting to go rogue to that to me. Granted it took more then one bullet to kill them, but it was less then a clip. While they unloaded on me and barely did any dmg.  No idea their lvl. I was too busy laughing at his poor attempt to steal my gear lol.

then i need to know your stats, because i cant last that long. seems i get killed with one shot all the time in the DZ.

 

[ESGN]

Ill get them for you when I get home. I have been killed with one or two shots before, but that's usually if they pop the dmg skill or they use a marksman.

 

[Blazzen67]

Ill get them for you when I get home. I have been killed with one or two shots before, but that's usually if they pop the dmg skill or they use a marksman.

yeah, i got to tweak my gear, i know im not where i should be with it. maybe re-roll some stuff.

 

[ESGN]

yeah, i got to tweak my gear, i know im not where i should be with it. maybe re-roll some stuff.

ive re-rolled a lot of my gear. what I pay attention to aswell. is the character page where it shows your total armor and dmg mitigation.

The instances where I don't receive much dmg and turned and killed someone with a few bullets don't happen very often. Out of all the hours ive played grinding for gear in the dz. Its only happened 2-3 times at most.

 

[Blazzen67]

ive re-rolled a lot of my gear. what I pay attention to aswell. is the character page where it shows your total armor and dmg mitigation.

The instances where I don't receive much dmg and turned and killed someone with a few bullets don't happen very often. Out of all the hours ive played grinding for gear in the dz. Its only happened 2-3 times at most.

i will keep that in mind...i know im doing something wrong...it will get figured out..when i do..there will be hell to pay with some rogues LOL

 

[Zenifystone]

Ok, like you guys said, there are huge factors with how you actually utilize your stats. I personally go for the stamina / crit chance/dmg approach. All I'm saying is , 50 plus dz allows purchase of better gear therefore in my opinion gives an upper hand against lower dz players.

also, aug para as a smg is a much better gun

 

[ESGN]

Ok, like you guys said, there are huge factors with how you actually utilize your stats. I personally go for the stamina / crit chance/dmg approach. All I'm saying is , 50 plus dz allows purchase of better gear therefore in my opinion gives an upper hand against lower dz players.

also, aug para as a smg is a much better gun

i agree. and yes aug with similar talents to my vector would be better. But my vector has hs dmg, crit dmg and armor destruction as its talents. couple that with mods geared towards crit dmg and hs dmg and its a beast. its base crit chance is 25.5% or 25%. I was extremely lucky to get that roll.

 

[ESGN]

i will keep that in mind...i know im doing something wrong...it will get figured out..when i do..there will be hell to pay with some rogues LOL

I'm learning more and more about gear and what to look for in gear to compliment my style of play. i can do cover to cover, but i prefer a more in your face, run-n-gun style. My gear isn't anything special, but it is working well for me. I would like to up my stamina a bit more, but haven't found anything yet. Ive got blueprints that will help, but its finding that yellow divtech that's the problem lol.

 

[Blazzen67]

 its finding that yellow divtech that's the problem lol.

in the last 'state of the game" video by ubisoft, they did say they are going to make it easier to get division tech.dont know how and dont know when but it will be soon..maybe when they launch incursions/operations, what ever they are calling it these days

 

[ESGN]

in the last 'state of the game" video by ubisoft, they did say they are going to make it easier to get division tech.dont know how and dont know when but it will be soon..maybe when they launch incursions/operations, what ever they are calling it these days

That's good to know. I figured they were going to make it more available. I like that its hard to find, but ive picked up 0 yellow divtech in the past two days lol. That's just ridiculous.

 

[Blazzen67]

That's good to know. I figured they were going to make it more available. I like that its hard to find, but ive picked up 0 yellow divtech in the past two days lol. That's just ridiculous.

just read on gamespot that the info on incursions/operations will be in less than 20 minuets on their twitch channel. maybe they will mention division tech as well

 

[ESGN]

heres what i have. i can go into more detail about specific gear if you want. also,  i put screen caps of what i feel are important stats to look at in your character screen. there are alot more details in there, but these two aspects i feel are vital. Im currently holding the pakhan lmg, just a heads up as to why my dps shows lower then what ive been saying it is.

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