the 6 gold armor pieces

[con spire]

only had this game 6 weeks or so and have been watching the guys on twitch having fun on the pts, mainly using high dps all gold build. so im farming the madison field hospital. now im a stuborn man and for 3 days i put in 12 hrs per day. thats 36 hours, so it turned in to a bit of a joke and me been stubborn wants these items and now just wants to see how many times itll take b4 i do get them. ive dropped down to between 8-10 hrs per day as it is becoming unenjoyable in every sense of the manner but ive done this for 7 more days. thats 100 hrs plus at 6 mins a run, to not recieve 1 pair of shortbow knee pads. and when they do finally drop, whats the odds of it having good stats, 5% (if your luck) multiple that to my stats, see where im going here. and to top it all off, all the pick ups, armor wise while farming where crap maybe because you can only do this mission on hard. one last thing to point out, this is just for 1 item out of the 6 and 1 if not thee shortist missions of them all to do.

what an experience ive had with this game. ha

 

[quinch1199]

Drop rate for "exotic" items is low...but to be honest I'm fine with that. HOWEVER, chances of having low stats on the item when you get it is high still!!

Now, I'm all for not having great drop rates on items that are rare BUT I really wish they'd put in that the stats the item has are FIXED and HIGH ... the type of stats should be random of course as the game doesn't know exactly what you want but what stats are on an item like these should be the maximum roll you can get. 

 

[Oh. daesu]

The rate is believed to be about 1%. So, 100 runs to have a chance. And as @quinch1199 said, then the item could have a bad roll. It is common for people to have a good roll on there second drop. The time taken to do a run means not all gear has the same amount of hours to have a chance of a drop. Gloves are fairly easy. Next easiest is the knee pads, but as you pointed out, running it on hard mode means no extra benefit. Lex for the chest takes more time but atleast there is PXCs for your troubles.

 

[DeadSockPuppet]

I can attest to the Barrett's chest. I ran that about 100 times and just got it on my final run of the night this last Saturday (haven't even used or equipped it).  I've got the kneepads and the gloves, gloves came from a drop and the pads were in a cache.  I've run Napalm about 40-45 times and haven't gotten a Ferro, which is really the next one I'm looking for.

The pic below has some helpful info about the drop rates and where you can get them.  This is from pre-1.6, so it doesn't list the exotic caches that will be available, which will be another way to get exotics (named weapons and gear).

 

[quinch1199]

I've run Napalm about 40-45 times and haven't gotten a Ferro

I believe the "Named NPC - 1%" might refer to ALL NAMED NPC's as my Gloves dropped from an LZ Named NPC. The Mask I got from Survival Cache drop, which at 14%, is a pretty high chance. 

All that said the named items ... logically .. should drop with a higher drop rate from the corresponding named NPC but I really don't think we're seeing that. Massive haven't released many official figures and i'm increasingly feeling the table we have is woefully incomplete as I don't believe the 14% drop rate in Survival Caches to be honest either. 

 

[DeadSockPuppet]

That's good info.  However, I thought Massive confirmed that Ferro, Barrettt & Bliss were the only NPCs to drop the mask, chest & holster (respectively).  I don't really mind running Napalm, as it's not difficult, it just takes more time than Lex so it gets to be frustrating because of that.  

On a side note, is there a good spot to farm Caduceus?

 

[Oh. daesu]

That's good info.  However, I thought Massive confirmed that Ferro, Barrettt & Bliss were the only NPCs to drop the mask, chest & holster (respectively).  I don't really mind running Napalm, as it's not difficult, it just takes more time than Lex so it gets to be frustrating because of that.  

On a side note, is there a good spot to farm Caduceus?

LZ open world bosses (I've got 4 from this)

Amherst's Apartment s

 

[quinch1199]

On a side note, is there a good spot to farm Caduceus?

BULLET KING!! lol

Ferro, Barrettt & Bliss were the only NPCs to drop the mask, chest & holster

My Mask dropped from LZ boss.

 

[DeadSockPuppet]

This is all good to know, I'd almost prefer to farm LZ bosses for named gear than most other options.  

 

[quinch1199]

This is all good to know, I'd almost prefer to farm LZ bosses for named gear than most other options.  

Granted though for a time vs. gain mechanism Lex on Challenge still is hard to beat. I'll take 10mins for 80+ PXC every time...but for bordems sake the LZ bosses are far better.  :2_grimacing:

 

[quinch1199]

My Mask dropped from LZ boss

Actually...so did my gloves! Forgot that. I don't farm missions to be honest so most of the way I get drops like this is LZ or Survival (though not had time to run survival for WEEKS!)

 

[DeadSockPuppet]

Ran all the LZ bosses and got a Skulls MC gloves from a field cache (better stats than my originals), but nothing else.  Ran Lex 1x and started getting lag so we tried Amhearst 1x and barely made it thru with the lag.  Did end up getting some solid mods so that I don't have to swap mods between my PM & D3-FNC builds when I switch between them, so I guess that it was an ok farm.