Cutting the rope in DZ

[Psykotik556]

Is it just me or does anyone else think that the loot chopper winch has more than enough power to yank up all attached loot? Obviously yes but my problem is that when the extraction timer runs out and the loot rope still hasn't raised because someone is cutting it is bullcrap. Who decided it'd be a good idea for the sweaty tryhard "live to rouge" people should have even more opportunity to steal loot? I'm okay with the option to cut it but there needs to be a patch where if the timer runs out while the rope is being cut then the loot is extracted, period, you're talking a Huey with a massive cargo winch CANNOT lift while there's a knife touching the rope? B.U.L.L.C.R.A.P. Whose side is the pilot on? Anyway. It's just nitpicking but still, don't give thieves even more chance to steal everyone's hard earned loot. Timer runs out then the loot should b extracted, stealing shouldn't be made easy, treachery shouldn't be made easy. Please fix or extend the rope cutting timer to give people more of a chance to defend their loot because often times there are Veteran and Elite AI enemies swarming the extraction site while it's happening.

 

[quinch1199]

Isn't the "any damage taken restarts the rope cutting timer" working anymore? 

 

[DeadSockPuppet]

I think dmg stall the timer, but doesn't restart it.  I was running DZ on Thursday or Friday night and cut a rope because I hadn't done it before and wanted to see how the mechanics worked.  The guy that was extracting shot at me and I think the timer stalled but started back up when my teammate engaged him and got him to stop shooting me.  I'd have to watch my twitch video to be sure, because I don't remember at what time I started cutting or how the mechanic was affected.  

That being said, I agree that the chopper should pull the line and leave when the extraction chopper is done.  To play the other side though, if it takes 10 sec to cut the rope, all players have to do is wait until inside 10 sec to attach their loot and their loot can't be stolen.  My guess is that's why Massive runs the rope cutting the way they do.  If you're going to change it so the line goes when the timer runs out, might as well remove the rope cutting option.  

 

[quinch1199]

I think dmg stall the timer, but doesn't restart it.

Odd, I'll have to check the old patch notes. I thought it restarted the timer. I think restarting the timer for taking damage would be the idea mechanic as it would encourage Rogues to clear the area perhaps first, OR have a buddy like you did. 

 

[quinch1199]

1.2 patch notes say:

• Shooting a player while they are interacting with an object will cause the timer to push back. (such as opening a supply crate or hijacking an extraction)
  

Now to me "push back" means the timer goes backwards, maybe not resets but extends the rope cut ... potentially ... indefinitely if the cutter keeps taking small damage and doesn't stop cutting the rope. 

Responsibility then is on the owner of the gear to keep damaging the Rogue cutting the rope, even only a tiny bit. To me this seems fair and a good mechanic. 

 

[DeadSockPuppet]

Like I said, I don't remember what happened.  I didn't wait until the last minute and my teammate merc'd the crap out of the guy so he left me alone to finish the cut.  I'll have to look at my Twitch video and see what happened.  I'll try to remember to look at it tonight after work and I can report back later.  

 

[quinch1199]

Like I said, I don't remember what happened.  I didn't wait until the last minute and my teammate merc'd the crap out of the guy so he left me alone to finish the cut.  I'll have to look at my Twitch video and see what happened.  I'll try to remember to look at it tonight after work and I can report back later.  

Sweet, would be good if its working as intended or broken since 1.5 potentially.

 

[DeadSockPuppet]

I'll check the video but it would be 1.4, I'm on PS4 and the vid is from before today. 

 

[DeadSockPuppet]

I watched the rope cut a couple times and I got to about 1/4-1/3 thru cutting the rope and the timer paused while I was being shot, it didn't reset.  The guy ended up downing me before my teammate took him out, but it didn't reset until I was downed.  

If you want to check the video to confirm, it should be saved on my Twitch channel for about a week.  It's the most recent video (from Saturday, length 4:54:30).  It's long so cue it up to 4hr 25min and the rope cut mechanic starts within like 20-30 sec.  My channel is twitch.tv/s7_sockpuppet 

 

[quinch1199]

@DeadSockPuppet  - Doesn't sound like its working as intended to be honest, certainly not "as advertised" in the patch notes. Might be worth bringing it up on the official forums for discussion.

 

[DeadSockPuppet]

Might look into that.  The last couple times I've tried to post a minor issue there I've either had login problems or some other issue.  Also might be good to edit the video down to the time at the extraction, but I'm not sure if I can do that with the Twitch videos since I've never tried editing my recordings.